And fb, of course. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Mr. X is a very close friend of Mr. M. Mr. M was a 20 year old man who impregnated one of the girls. Kegan Kline cannot be involved either. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources. Why didnt he pull up to his front door? He was arrested on charges of child sexual abuse images and child exploitation tied to the account and admitted to grooming underage girls online. A mystery man was captured in a grainy video taken on Libby's phone the day of her. That would mean he would have had to drive back to Delphi by at least 3:45 and possibly later, depending on what town he was in and when he left. But not far. We have almost no information about the cause of death or what the crime scene looked like. We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. Fondled similarly to Libby. Last, I want to bring up RL and the dirty hand LE dealt him throughout all of this. The doc is his property. I tune in to their broadcasts and most of it is these narcissists collecting narcissistic supply, which is being doled out by their worshipful audience. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? Not even Becky Patty and she was probably more devastated than anyone and probably still is. Thats a GoPro on BGs waist and he filmed his crime. So Mr. X did not ask him to search for his keys, he was officially asking to search for the girls according to ol Ronny boy. Its certainly possible that she may well have not recognized Mr. X, even though he was apparently a neighbor. The case for Mr. X is as solid as ever. Deer kits have five knives, so we assume this one does too. And sickeningly, the murderer 'staged' the girls' bodies in a particular way after killing them, although it remains unclear exactly how he did this. Forgive me if Ive missed this, but whats keeping police from arresting this guy? That looks suspicious as Hell. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. Oh one more thing. I guess this need continues into adulthood, but I like a little meat on my bone. Police found the girls' lifeless bodies a short distance from the bridge the following day, near a trail close to the bridge. It was my understanding that a local news channel had posted 1 crime scene photo to their Facebook page, and that it was of clothing in the creek. I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. These seem to have been packing plant workers in the Delphi area who get transferred over to the Evansdale area for periods of time to work on sister plants over there. It is currently unclear what the. She described his eyes as dark and evil. FSG is at the trails every day. He was like a manager there or something, in Delphi!!! We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up. Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. Its a very rare occurrence, only 1.3% of the victims is left in an unusual, corrected position. The rest are guardians. Photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and film. The gun jammed, which Garrett said is common. I believe there is probable cause to believe that RONALD LOGAN has committed the crime of murder and evidence of that can be found on RONALD LOGANS property.. Anyway, pastor in a Pentecostal church would be a perfect place for a man like that because those religious people dont care much about Alpha, Beta, and all that stuff. No, he didnt kill his own granddaughter. So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE believes they were posed. - November 30, 2022 Delphi murders leaked texts revealed the evidence behind the brutal death of two teenage girls who went out to spend their day off but met a very tragic end. Also note that LE are now acting like they think the young catfish did the crime, not the older BG. He could have called his wife, who was friends with Becky Patty, and the wife could have told him about the girls going missing. No, the other girl was also having sex with males and she also had a boyfriend. Police investigating the mysterious Delphi, Indiana, murders are looking for the person who, they said, created fake Snapchat and Instagram profiles, posed as a wealthy male model and contacted underage girls. It is important to note that the validity of the text messages has not and cannot be corroborated at this time. Instead, their families are holding on to the hope that this is the year their killer is brought to justice. I am thinking of reasons why the FBI was immediately involved and now the focus is not on a possible interstate killer. The dots connecting back to Iowa with the Tyson plant etc is great investigative work. Cops say teen murder victims were posed, killer took souvenirs Why would they deliberately contradict their own beliefs? Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. "It seems like there is something more to it than just a gun.". But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City. Another reason he stayed is we believe that he enjoyed the drama. He has not been charged in the Delphi case. He has pleaded not guilty to the charges. 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. The warrant indicated that an FBI agent said Logans voice is not inconsistent with that of the person in the video.. The profile was used from 2016 to 2017 on platforms including Snapchat and Instagram and used photos of a known male model, portraying him as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. In the first four years, two LE officers only affirmed one rumor each. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. Thats probably your answer. The investigation continued, and Kline was arrested in 2020 on charges unrelated to the Delphi murders. when you send someone a file, you retain a copy for yourself. A few people were claiming it was Abby leaned against a tree with her face covered in blood, claw marks on the ground, and a pool of blood a few feet away. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. Director of Atlantas Cold Case Research Institute and Atlanta metro-area CSI, Sheryl McCollum, said she believes the killer likely posed the victims bodies, instead of staging, for a form of gratification. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? If its who I think it is, you can tell her I said that. Mr. Xs wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. It is interesting that Mr. X appears to have stayed with his truck from 6:30 PM to on Monday, February 13, to 12:30 PM Tuesday, February 14 when the girls were found. However, he was one of the searchers who found the bodies, and he was also known to have searched the area in the dark the previous evening. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. Crime scene photos leaked? : r/LibbyandAbby - reddit Then there is always the question of his occupation. He has reportedly filed a plea of not guilty and is being held without bond. And my ban appeal didnt work either. If you wish to join, please go here. Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. An Indiana bar owner has revealed that the suspect arrested in the Delphi massacre of two teenage girls was a patron at his inn who often sat inches away from police sketches of the wanted killer. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. Photos of Abby Williams, left, and Libby German, right, at police headquarters in Delphi, Indiana. I cant see where this is! I think cycles finally straighten out at age 15. Thank you for stopping by the site. Photo shows daughter of arrested Delphi Bridge suspect in SAME spot One thing I always have to remind myself of is that LE is allowed to lie to the public. IMHO there is a main suspect, and I dont really care if everyone is pointing elsewhere. You dont have LE sources. Only a few seconds of the 43-seconds long recording have not been made public. before that he was at dump and after that he went to fish store. Delphi Timeline | Actus Reus Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. Richard Allen, 50, was charged with the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi, Ind., in February 2017. The shot showed Allen smiling with his wife, while in the background over his shoulder - mere feet away - a police sketch of of the Delphi murder suspect could be seen posted by a notice board on the wall. On Feb. 13, 2017, the two best Answers to questions about my credibility. Then come email me and I will send you a link to the private group and a password to get you in. Germans sister Kelsey tweeted early Friday: Just know how grateful I am to all of you. No comments for now, any questions please refer to the Carroll County Prosecutors Office. Do the searchers who found the bodies know if they were posed? Would you please email me? Its $20. Hey Robert, absolutely love reading your blogs. I appreciate your style about not being afraid to put out things others wouldnt dare & or might even get accosted over doing soThose idiots are WEAK& most of them are hypocritesSome of the new YouTubers even, they first bitch about the same thing, then they start a channel, and the next thing you know, their moderators are hacking/choking& putting that ass in the corner for hours before allowing u to crawl back in, all bruised, & compliantNot for me. No, at least not in this case. If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. The point is that that Mr. Holder had nothing to do with this crime. and our Not important? 6) He has a family member thats buried in the cemetery near the Monon Bridge. Theres no woman among them. Considering I often cannot view website news articles because of data protection laws? Investigators tracked Logans activities on the day of the murders and determined he was not forthcoming. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him. Mr. X has is not even at the Person of Interest stage in this case. Its not clear how? I wonder if that person is confusing the crime scene photos with the Iowa girls. Thats actually how I was pointed to you because apparently, I copied from you (YouTube actually deleted these comments too ). Not quite sainthood, but getting there. Mr. X is married to BP sister which makes him Libbys uncle not blood relatedheard it somewhere on the Net it would be easy for you RL to check that out . The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time. The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. The fact that I believe LE has been busy trying to cover up the mistakes they made early on leads me to believe that they inadvertently helped BG get away with this horrendous crime and continue to do so by withholding almost every piece of information possible from the public, while at the same time begging for that one tip they need to make an arrest. I do not know why RRB is? where Liberty German and Abigail Williams were seen before they were reported missing by their families on Feb. 13, 2017. Distractify is a registered trademark. Robert, I am wondering why no reply to my question? 17:50 GMT 31 Oct 2022. Investigators believe the man is the killer. They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. DELPHI FBI Investigators believe the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were "moved and staged" at the Delphi murder scene, according to court documents. Im limited in my sleuthing skills. Just thought I would draw your attention to it. Of course, there are trolls saying that the information Ive given is info thats already known. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. "No, that's not her nor Libby," he wrote in his text response. Welcome to the site! Shock value towards anyone who finds the bodies and perverted pleasure seem like they can be intertwined. Delphi, Indiana from at least 1984-2021. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. What are they doing to move this forward? A heavily-built man in jeans and a blue jacket could be seen approaching the girls, and in a brief snippet of audio that was released the man could be heard saying 'Down the hill' to the girls. We also do not know why out of all of the places to search, he happened to pick the exact location where the girls were killed. This year, Allen "again admitted" to police "that he was on the trail but denied knowing Victim 1 or Victim 2 and denied any involvement in their murders," according to the probable cause affidavit. They werent that close. We also dont know what he was doing searching down there that night. The boots appear to be Indiana Packers boots. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. In a blown-up pic of him, you can clearly see that it has the shape of handcuffs. He also allegedly asked his cousin to back up his story before the girls bodies had been found. Also, there is debate, but if you look at the scanner recording of the day when the bodies were found, the local PD says "keep them away" in response to a statement re: bystanders + FBI; resulting in debate about whether local pd was trying to keep FBI away and why. Interesting. If any of you want to sift through there and find some interesting stuff and post it here, please feel free to go for it. He killed a woman. There may never be an arrest in this case. Who says those videos are from him? Hes also thoroughly lawyered up, and hes not saying a word. 5) He parked near the cemetery, but not at the cemetery. We obtained this document via a public records request. We believe that this happened in the first place because a photo exists of a truck being towed from the CPS building around February 14. Incidentally, we now have a retired homicide detective working as part of our team. Yes, I know. We believe that his truck got towed later on when his wife never showed up with the keys, that Mr. X searched Ron Logans land that evening with two other men, and that he left his truck sitting in that same spot for 18 hours until the next day when the bodies were found. Train tracks and you guessed it, more fields, parallel to the gas station. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. BG threw toilet cleaner over the girls and every object at the crime scene, thereby eliminating most if not all of the usable DNA. Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek. I live in Pennsylvania and have been interested in this case since the time it happened. Then they have the nerve to beg for witnesses to come forward with information. There is so much junk, lies, theory, you name it, it is there. And he has an accomplice, a much younger man. If this did happen, then they wouldn't have been able to tell if Abby was posed. Amazingly, Libby German took a video of a man walking behind her and Abby Williams on the bridge, who is believed to be the killer. LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume hes cleared. For the first time, the warrant reveals that they were killed by some type of weapon but the word is redacted in the document. I find it very hard to believe either of the girls were targeted by anyone-everything about this case screams random attack by a killer who knew the most likely location to find female victims he could easily overpower. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. This March marks the 30 th anniversary of the murder of 21 year-old Penn State student, Dana Bailey. The Delphi Murders: Four years later Libby & Abby's killer is still out there. According to Business Insider senior reporter and co-founder of The Murder Sheet podcast, ine Cain, Libby had an interaction with Kline on Instagram but thought she was interacting with the person in a photo Kline posted as himself, in an attempt to catfish young girls into sending nude photos. Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. Thanks, Mike! Did he see BG? However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. Though there was no press conference held on the third anniversary of the murders in February of 2020, investigators said that the case was not cold. But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. Hes innocent. What makes even less sense to me are some of the things that they have said or at least have not challenged as not being factual. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. Good advice. A number of strange objects were found around the Evansdale girls similar to the bizarre images decorating the Delphi crime scene. The few times Ive brought him up myself (this is really on Reddit) I have been ripped apart for my apparent stupidity. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? They seriously posted photos just so they could retain cool points. If one of the girls was pregnant, was the pregnancy a result of intercourse with Mr X? The pre-trial hearing in this case is to be held in January. If it was an adult male, that changes things considerably. The only thing I can think of is it was too gruesome, in their mind, to release," Garrett said. In a press conference on Monday, the state police took the first step towards providing justice to the brutally killed juveniles. Yes it is all speculation. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. My understanding was that an FBI agent was visiting family in Delphi and assisted in the search when he heard about it (as it is a very small town, most people heard about the girls missing that night and the search the night they failed to return); FBI agent assists in search as essentially a volunteer, and when it becomes apparent by late night - early morning that there may be something more sinister than the girls simply getting lost, he assisted with request of local authorities (as is required unless it is w/in FBI jurisdiction, as this was not) with getting the FBI to the scene the next morning. Delphi Man Reportedly Arrested in Connection to Murder of Teen Indiana Police still have not released their causes of death. Privacy Policy. In September of 2020, messages started flowing on the web that were purportedly between the one who discovered the young ladies' bodies and his companion. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. I dont know if Mr. X is part of the groups promoting the trail system, but for some reason, I doubt it. He is said to haveadmitted talking to Libby German using a fake Instagram profile called Anthony_shots. See video. Could be something more nefarious. Does the Delphi Murders Investigation Involve Leaked Text Messages? Copyright 2023 Distractify. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. I dont get that vibe at all with everything I know, but then again I know very little lol. He has long been presumed to be their killer. The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. We believe this because this is what we were told. He ran off for s copy for us and sent it to us in the mail.